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Международный журналист-француженка отвечает на отличном английском с лёгким акцентом на вопрос американской коллеги, не поднимутся ли во Франции антимусульманские настроения: "Естественно, поднимутся!  Пусть мусульмане и говорят not in my name (не от моего имени), но террористы совершили это преступление не во имя Будды."  А если бы преступление было совершено во имя Христа, что тогда?!

Как не вспомнить слова еврейской девочки: очень печально, что опять уже в который раз подтверждается старая мудрость: за то, что сделал один христианин, отвечает он сам, за то, что сделал один еврей, вина падает на всех евреев.

Date: 2015-11-20 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
no no no in AFGANISTAN.

this briefly came out - and there were never any other references to it again which.. supports my point - this was a "calculated mistake", and the fact that the bride and her relatives died in the strike was judged to be a reasonable loss for getting that guest guy.

Date: 2015-11-20 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agasfer.livejournal.com
There was a 2002 case and a 2008 case...which one? More likely, you meant the 2008 bombing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deh_Bala_wedding_party_airstrike

Date: 2015-11-21 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agasfer.livejournal.com
I was not able to find any sources claiming there were terrorists there.

Date: 2015-11-21 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
i am not sure it was THAT wedding. and, as i said - i was unable to find this again.

Date: 2015-11-21 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agasfer.livejournal.com
Shouldn't we be reluctant to spread questionable information, or at least, pass it on with disclaimers of "за что купил, за то продал" kind?

Date: 2015-11-21 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
sure, we should all shut up. you first, then.

you don't have to believe anything you read either. i am telling you that a certain hit on a wedding was possibly not a mistaken hit. you can take it or leave it.

Date: 2015-11-21 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agasfer.livejournal.com
Why me? I found one such wedding but this happened in Yemen, not in Afghanistan. Regardless whether the CIA claims are true or not, striking the whole wedding party wass a form of collective punishment. You can't do tricks like this and talk about "Russian brutality" afterwards.

Date: 2015-11-21 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
yes i can. russian brutality is not negated by american brutality.
i was talking about an afgani wedding, definitely afgani. if it was a for a different user, not for you, for whom i have little regard, i would have gone in deep and searched. but for you - i donc't care what you think, so take it or leave it.

Date: 2015-11-21 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agasfer.livejournal.com
I see. And this highly regarded user does not check the information you provide her, presumably, because your high regards are mutual. She trusts your words, you trust hers. This is what's called "an information bubble".

Date: 2015-11-21 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
whatever. not all info is "checkable" anyway.
and i never sold my information as more than a maybe.

and yes, you are not very respectable. you have that reputation.

Date: 2015-11-22 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agasfer.livejournal.com
Yeah, my bad reputation precedes me. And I've heard this one before, "It matters not what you say but whom you speak to."

Amazingly enough, you and Taki-Net are quite similar in your craving for emotional connections with other users. The difference being, of course, that he's a morally narcissistic asshole, and you are not even bitchy enough to qualify for a bitch.

Date: 2015-11-22 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
well. you are insulting me. i AM a bitch. i am not a vicious snake, like your dear friend gawneisha, but a bitch. .i am.

Date: 2015-11-22 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agasfer.livejournal.com
LOL she accused me of being YOUR friend. Now you are accusing me of being HER friend. Why don't the three of us have a nice chat someday over a drink and figure out who friends whom?

Date: 2015-11-22 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
no thanks... you - possibly. her - never ever. she is beyond my compassion after what she did. i am not sure that her selling my personal info here - did not result in what happened to me in real life. the temporal association was like within a day of her posting - literally, i have it - "ask me for her place of work, real name" - that it happened.
so if i meet her - that might be in court. you - ? no, thanks. a nice thought, though.

Date: 2015-11-22 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agasfer.livejournal.com
Sorry to hear you got into trouble. But...that kind of things may happen when an imaginary bitch runs into a real-life bitch.

thank you.

Date: 2015-11-22 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
this happened to a few people less habalistyj than my Molly, so i cannot blame Molly entirely. in fact it happens to very nice, very sweet users too - if they run into an asshole (sorry for the visual). but don't underestimate my real-life bitchiness - i am no mild and nice ninazino when someone hurts me. i can see purple, "lose it", and overdo my return strike, even to my own disadvantage. because i hate to see people down. even when they fully deserve it.

Re: thank you.

Date: 2015-11-23 07:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agasfer.livejournal.com
What a kind hearted woman you are! :)

Re: thank you.

Date: 2015-11-23 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
i am not kind-hearted. but i hate to see people humiliated and hurt, as hopefully most people do. only once in my life i gloated a little. congratulated a hateful person with the tenure she earned. but she had not, and i knew it. my husband thought this was very low of me.

Re: thank you.

Date: 2015-11-24 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agasfer.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'd agree with your hubby on this one. Personally, I loath gloaters (although, I admit, half of this contempt comes from superstition that if I gloat I jinx myself:))

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